Cubasis 2 Vs Garageband Ipad
One of the most common questions I get as a music technologist is “When will I be able to use my iPad to replace my digital audio workstation?” For many of us, we may hold fast to ‘never’ as the answer. I’ll be honest, I love my Mac Pro. I love my decked out home studio. But after 2 weeks of restricting myself to working solely on my mobile device, I discovered something. I love my iPad, too. For those of you looking to be able to work on the road, or maybe even simply replace your home studio setup with an iOS device—the future is looking very bright.
Oct 16, 2018 Cubase vs Garageband, did I waste my money on Cubase? Garageband works fine as a idea notepad on my iPad but I could not do any serious recording with it. It does not have enough functionality. 15th October 2018 #21. Lives for gear. 2 Reviews written. Quote: Originally Posted by BIG BUDDHA. . CUBASIS 3 IS NOW AVAILABLE. Enjoy a brand-new and fully redesigned Cubasis app, which runs on the iPhone and iPad, and adds many user-requested features and improvements! Cubasis 2 equals ease of use and is as powerful as a fully featured iOS-based music production system can be pushing your. Dec 16, 2012 . CUBASIS 3 IS NOW AVAILABLE. Enjoy a brand-new and fully redesigned Cubasis app, which runs on the iPhone and iPad, and adds many user-requested features and improvements! Cubasis 2 equals ease of use and is as powerful as a fully featured iOS-based music production system can be pushing your. Cubasis 2 in all its glory. Here you can see the new Channel Strip insert, and note the new Auto Quantise setting in the Quantise pop-over. When I reviewed the first version of Cubasis, back in the March 2013 issue, I concluded that it was “a very promising mobile music-making tool that could shine if Steinberg iron out the initial quirks and bugs and keep the app up to date”. Jan 26, 2014 The effects in Cubasis are pretty basic, for example the EQ only has 2 sliders for low and hi, that's it! But obviously Cubasis does Midi so the two apps are geared to different markets. I don't see Auria adding Midi anytime soon either. As far as Cubasis requiring iOS6, that's not true. I'm running it on an iPad 1 with iOS 5.
I took a look at what are widely accepted to be the 5 most popular offerings in the field of iOS DAW recording today. I found that each had strengths that catered to different types of musicians, and I’m very excited to share with you what I’ve found. Paired up with a quality compatible audio interface, (and there are quite a few of those available these days), you can do some serious work on the iPad starting today! Here are 5 great apps to get you started in no particular order.
Auria
WaveMachine Labs developed Auria for the full-featured audio recording studio user in mind. You can work with 48 tracks of mono or stereo audio at 24bit/96kHz. You can even record a staggering 24 of those tracks simultaneously with a compatible USB audio interface. When using Auria to track, I was incredibly impressed with the amount of headroom there was for mixing and editing. This app didn’t just act like a DAW—in many ways, it sonically rivaled them.
Auria includes a full on mixer view as well as a standard DAW tracks view. Within that tracks view you have full editing features that were implemented in an extremely ergonomic and convenient way. I could see myself getting quite fast with this app over time. WaveMachine Labs has also included some classic effects from PSP. These effects include a full-on channel strip and are stackable 4 per track. A bunch of effects are included and you can also add more through in-app purchase. The PSP MasterStrip is even included, so you can take your project through the mixing stage all the way to mastering with some really great, industry-acclaimed effects.
As if all of these features weren’t enough, there is even MIDI sync support with standard Mackie MCU and HUI available for your control surfaces. If you’re looking to do straight up audio recording, you can’t go wrong with Auria. It’s got the features, it’s got the expandability, and it really has the headroom to make your mixes sound great.
Cubasis 2
Auria is currently on sale in the app store for $24.99
Web: http://auriaapp.com
Cubasis
Steinberg’s Cubase is a very popular desktop DAW, so it’s no surprise that they were one of the first companies to the market with a full-featured music production app for the iPad. Cubasis can also handle 24 inputs simultaneously, but they go so far as to claim unlimited audio and MIDI tracks depending on the device you are running it on.
Cubasis is absolutely packed with features, and the visual aesthetic makes Cubase users feel right at home. In addition to recording audio, you also can record MIDI tracks with a nice built in library of virtual instruments. There’s Micro Sonic and Micrologue for both sample-based sounds and synthesizer sounds, as well as a selection of drum loops to choose from for laying down quick grooves. Cubasis features a store as well, and you can purchase additional effects there to really trick out your mix.
Ipad Garageband Vs Cubasis
If all of that wasn’t enough to get you excited, there’s an included sample editor and key editor. I plugged in my xKey 37 and was able to craft a song from scratch very quickly. I was also pleased to find that you could export your song directly to Cubase for your desktop computer and continue to work in a more high-powered environment.
All of those features are really cool, but what had me most excited was the fact that Cubasis absolutely has the inter-app audio feature of iOS MASTERED. They’ve implemented it better than anyone else as far as I can tell. If you have other synth apps or samplers installed such as MorphWiz, Animoog, or Geosynth, they actually show up in Cubasis as virtual instruments—just like on your desktop DAW! So you don’t have to go over to them, get a sound going and just ‘hope and pray’ that when you switch back to Cubasis it can somehow get the audio from that app—any other audio app that supports inter-app audio will show up in Cubasis as a selectable virtual instrument. That really amazed me and I couldn’t get enough of playing with that feature.
Cubasis is available in the app store for $49.99
Web: http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/mobile_apps/cubasis.html
GarageBand
GarageBand is easily the most common ‘household name’ in iOS recording simply because it is Apple’s first party offering. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have its strengths, though! A diverse loop library consisting of a variety of instruments makes it really easy to put together a sketch or outline of a tune in minutes.
The included virtual instruments represent a nice selection of the scaled-back EXS sampler instruments of GarageBand for Mac. Really, just about any standard sound you might need can be found in GarageBand. It’s limited to only recording one track at a time right now, so it may not fill the DAW-on-the-go spot you were looking to fill, but if you need to quickly sketch out a song on the fly, it’s probably the easiest to use of all the choices out there.
Now we just have to wait for Logic for iPad! (fingers crossed!)
GarageBand is free for qualifying newer iOS 8 compatible devices, and $4.99 for legacy devices.
Web: https://www.apple.com/ios/garageband/
FL Studio HD
Fruity Loops has come a long way since it’s original concept as a beat-creation station on the PC. Now a full-fledged DAW for the PC, (and with HOARDS of Mac users absolutely clamoring for it’s appearance on the Mac,) it has spawned a younger brother on the iPad. FL Studio HD is a respectable offering on iOS and has a lot of neat things that make it fun to use. It’s a MIDI sequencer, so there are no audio tracks to speak of, but at the fast rate iOS developers update their apps we can hope that audio is not far away!
The interface is designed for quick, quick, SUPER quick navigation. The buttons and touch areas are all quite large, and there are tabs up at the top of the screen that allow you to quickly jump from view to view. Rather than put too much in any one screen, the folks at Image-Line have opted to make the controls much larger (something you may appreciate with a smaller device like the iPad) and split the screen up with navigation tabs.
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The sound set for FL Studio is wonderfully diverse, and they have an excellent organization paradigm. Again, since the sounds are all on their own page, you’ll find them easy to navigate and find. You can enhance your sound libraries with in-app purchases (of course), but FL Studio really comes with quite the selection of instruments right ‘out of the box’. The interface even morphs as you select instruments to drum pads for percussion instruments and keyboards for all other virtual instruments. There is even a waveform sample editor that allows you to record audio, cut it up, and loop it to be used in your projects.
You’ve got MIDI editing via a piano roll, a plethora of built in effects, And of course, it wouldn’t be Fruity Loops without a full-featured step sequencer—don’t worry, that’s included as well! I was truly impressed with how fast I was able to get around on Fruity Loops Studio HD. They did a great job of getting the technology ‘out of the way’ so that I could just make music quickly.
FL Studio Mobile HD is $19.99 on the app store.
Web: https://www.image-line.com/flstudiomobile/ipad.php
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With the current Cubasis sale, now would be a good time to “upgrade” my DAW from Garageband..
I do love the workflow of Garageband (even better after the recent update) and the ability to use it on the iPhone too.
I’m just wondering what can be done in Cubasis that I can’t currently do in Garageband?
Any advice much appreciated
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I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?
To myself, the biggest difference is the layout and automations in Cubasis - everything seems so much simpler and to hand. That’s just personal though - GarageBand has never clicked with me
I could unlock my Cubase LE because I have a Yamaha mg16xu mixer, so I did just that...now I can do an iap for the full feature set for only €16,99, which is a good deal of course but already owning GB, BM 3 , Modstep and AUM so I’m trying to justify me buying this iap. Afraid I will regret it if I don’t...
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?You can use some odd time signatures in Cubasis but I'm not able to check right now to see if 9/8 or 11/8 are possible. You can't change time signatures or tempo in a project. Auria pro is able to do that but to be honest you're probably better off using a DAW on a computer if you want to be able to play with time.
Thanks guys.
I’ve seen talk about “freezing” tracks in Cubasis, is this the same as ‘merge’ in GB?
It also looks like midi editing might be a bit easier Cubasis.?
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?Doesn’t Garageband do 6/8 as well? I think only Auria Pro has these kind of odd signatures, grids etc., plus tempo changes if you’re into progressive music. But Auria Pro has a learning curve, more like ProTools and Logic than Garageband or Cubasis.
Freezing tracks is more or less like merging, yes. I don’t like the fact Garageband duplicates the project every time you merge a song.
- edited November 2017
To me the big difference in these two apps is how open they are. Garageband is a closed wall environment IMO - the only way to get stems out is to mute tracks and export them one by one. I love Garageband's interface though, so this limitation of not being able further manipulate what you produce in GB is frustrating. Getting MIDI and audio in and out of Cubasis is a breeze.
- edited November 2017
MultiTrackStudio also has a tempo and time signature editor, (type in whatever you want) and is able to change either one mid-song. Cubasis does time signature in 4ths only 1/4-7/4
@ecamburn said:
To me the big difference in these two apps is how open they are. Garageband is a closed wall environment IMO - the only way to get stems out is to mute tracks and export them one by one. I love Garageband's interface though, so this limitation of not being able further manipulate what you produce in GB is frustrating. Getting MIDI and audio in and out of Cubasis is a breeze.Well, I was a PC user. Now that I switched to Mac, I can continue the project in GB or Logic on the Mac. And all the sounds are there
Cubasis will do 2/4 through 7/4 (previous version; I have not yet looked at the update.)
@Keenan
For me, GB has lots of cool sounds and the Live Loops workflow going for it, but I never felt comfortable trying to build stuff in the piano roll midi editor. I much prefer to do regular linear style tracks in Cubasis. Also as noted previously, GB is a pain to try to get it to work with other apps. Not impossible, but a drag compared to Cubasis.
The freeze in Cubasis bakes all the Midi and effects on a Midi track to an Audio track, like a pre-render. It saves on a lot of processing.
Cubasis is on sale right now, GB is FREE (and you already have it I see). I recommend both if you have the space for them.@CracklePot said:
@Keenan
For me, GB has lots of cool sounds and the Live Loops workflow going for it, but I never felt comfortable trying to build stuff in the piano roll midi editor. I much prefer to do regular linear style tracks in Cubasis. Also as noted previously, GB is a pain to try to get it to work with other apps. Not impossible, but a drag compared to Cubasis.
The freeze in Cubasis bakes all the Midi and effects on a Midi track to an Audio track, like a pre-render. It saves on a lot of processing.
Cubasis is on sale right now, GB is FREE (and you already have it I see). I recommend both if you have the space for them.Thanks, yeah it looks like Cubasis is more open ended. I guess I use GB as the “final destination” in the workflow, instead of trying to get GB instruments out (which would be great) to avoid frustration. AUs have made things a lot easier.
To be honest I don’t see myself making much use of piano roll note entering as it’s not as fun for me.
One thing I would like to know is if AUM only really works with Cubasis (I’ve seen Doug do it), or is there any way this could work with GB? I love being able to layer synths and fx in AUM for live playing but would ideally like to record directly onto a track in GB instead of using AudioShare as the go between.. I’ve tried Audiobus 2 with AUM as ‘in slot’ and GB as out.. it just crashes in audiobus@Keenan Yes it works! AUM can be hosted as an IAA source inside of GB. I just tested it and it seems to work great.
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan Yes it works! AUM can be hosted as an IAA source inside of GB. I just tested it and it seems to work great.Wow I was totally over complicating that, thanks so much!!
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).@Keenan said:
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan Yes it works! AUM can be hosted as an IAA source inside of GB. I just tested it and it seems to work great.Wow I was totally over complicating that, thanks so much!!
To do the layer setup in AUM, you should send all of your synths to a AUM bus, load that bus on its own track in AUM as the input, then send the track output to GB. I think GB will only input one thing at a time, and if this is the case, premixing in AUM is the way to go.
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
@Keenan said:
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
I think there is a new workflow using the Files app on iOS 11. @samu is a true GB guru (actually a sort of all-knowing sage), hopefully he will weigh in and help you out.
As far as 24 bit goes- probably not necessary for just fiddling about, but I would definitely use it if I was doing something I cared about and quality was a major factor.- edited November 2017
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
I think there is a new workflow using the Files app on iOS 11. @samu is a true GB guru (actually a sort of all-knowing sage), hopefully he will weigh in and help you out.
As far as 24 bit goes- probably not necessary for just fiddling about, but I would definitely use it if I was doing something I cared about and quality was a major factor.GarageBand can work in 24-bit if enabled in it's settings.
So yeah, the flow is, GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis
(If Cubasis had Files.app support you could skip the step with AudioShare, and actually you can if you use 'Open In..' from GarageBand).Actually any 'Document Manager' that is visible to the Files.app will do, it does't have to be AudioShare.
If one needs to download files from the Internet or Networked resources (NAS etc.) I recommend Documents by Readle (it works in perfect harmony with the Files.app). The cool thing with Documents is that once you've set up your networked resources they are accessible from the standard Document Picker.. (Say hello to direct import of files from your computers hard-drive).
@Samu said:
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
@Samu said:
When I need to get something out from GarageBand I just sequence it in GB, export the stuff as Audio and leave the session in GB in case I need to do some adjustments
(In practice GB is a 'content creator' for Cubasis).So GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis?
Do you export the GB track in 24 bit or doesn’t it matter?
I think there is a new workflow using the Files app on iOS 11. @samu is a true GB guru (actually a sort of all-knowing sage), hopefully he will weigh in and help you out.
As far as 24 bit goes- probably not necessary for just fiddling about, but I would definitely use it if I was doing something I cared about and quality was a major factor.GarageBand can work in 24-bit if enabled in it's settings.
So yeah, the flow is, GB -> AudioShare -> Cubasis
(If Cubasis had Files.app support you could skip the step with AudioShare, and actually you can if you use 'Open In..' from GarageBand).Actually any 'Document Manager' that is visible to the Files.app will do, it does't have to be AudioShare.
If one needs to download files from the Internet or Networked resources (NAS etc.) I recommend Documents by Readle (it works in perfect harmony with the Files.app). The cool thing with Documents is that once you've set up your networked resources they are accessible from the standard Document Picker.. (Say hello to direct import of files from your computers hard-drive).
This sounds a lot like the Audioshare FTP server I wished was general feature in Files. Thanks @samu
Keenan. GB,s “Final Destination”. Doesn’t have to be there ,with the use of Mastering apps ie, Final Touch,etc.can add some super touches to the finished artical. I also noticed after recording throug AudioBus the apps I’ve used appear in recorded track icon in GB,very helpful
You guys have been super helpful, thanks again!
I’ll have to pick your brains again soon I’m sure, but I’ll leave that for another day.
Hopefully I can return the favor.. anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?
@Keenan said:
Hopefully I can return the favor.. anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?If you post them, they will come.
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
Hopefully I can return the favor.. anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?If you post them, they will come.
'create'Not as with mixmeister that deals with commercial tracks en auto mix very excellent.I can work with audio tracks but sure not as good as Mixmeister does it.But as Daw software, since software synths are involved is just another league.In fact, anno 2015 there is still no application that does the auto mixing and beat slicing that is reaching the quality of Mixmeister.iDj can be compared with CD players with adjustable bpm and mixing panel.A bit easier with software. It can create non dance songs but note. Ableton is in fact DAW software.So it ships with software synthesizer en allows to hook up other VST based software synthesizers.
Dropbox link the only way?
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@Keenan said:
@CracklePot said:
@Keenan said:
Hopefully I can return the favor.. anyone interested in some random Zeeon presets?If you post them, they will come.
Dropbox link the only way?
Not sure if it's the only way, but it will work fine. I seem to recall others sharing stuff by way of Dropbox.
I tried to use GB to put down a sketch of an idea of a song that was knocking in my head lately. There was too much latency on the Guitar that I plugged in so I ended up using Cubasis and did whatever I wanted quite quickly.
So the answer is Cubasis. You don’t even need to get any iAPs as you could use external plug ins and export the mixdown to Audio Mastering or Final Cut for Mastering.
@yowza said:
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?You can use some odd time signatures in Cubasis but I'm not able to check right now to see if 9/8 or 11/8 are possible. You can't change time signatures or tempo in a project. Auria pro is able to do that but to be honest you're probably better off using a DAW on a computer if you want to be able to play with time.
@theconnactic said:
@nothumanatall said:
I also use GarageBand and it bugs me that I can’t make my tracks in any signature other than 3/4 or 4/4. It gets annoying to record in odd signatures. However I saw a comment stating you can’t do any signature you want in Cubasis so that’s why I’m holding on that. Does anyone know if you can make 9/8 or 11/8 or any other odd signature projects in Cubasis or can change the time signature within a project?Doesn’t Garageband do 6/8 as well? I think only Auria Pro has these kind of odd signatures, grids etc., plus tempo changes if you’re into progressive music. But Auria Pro has a learning curve, more like ProTools and Logic than Garageband or Cubasis.
Freezing tracks is more or less like merging, yes. I don’t like the fact Garageband duplicates the project every time you merge a song.
It seems Auria Pro would be a nice option for me. I don't want to use a computer because all I have is a shitty old one and I like working on my ipad. Thanks for the responses!